I forgot to stop recording so little over 5 miles and with 3 families took almost 4hrs. A lot more up then originally thought. Go up for probably 3.5 miles. Then kind of flattens out after creek crossing. Lake has lots of fish but average 8 inches. One large campsite at entrance to lake and another one towards rockslide area in grassy area. **Note: horse trail Very cool to go back down trail from lake 1/2 mile then go left and follow trail up above lake to mines. Small mines at top of ravine. Larger Mine go around backside of hill and up a waze. Trail up above first little mines and towards North Lake has old cabin remains. Bring a headlamp and watch your step! Lots of Huckleberries when we went.