Great hike enjoy Indian Point and then venture further out than most go. There are times where you need to use some terrain association and the map to stay on course. There are some cairns and survey tape to assist but I still ended off course a few times. 1 spring along the route otherwise no water. You can see the impact of the Eagle Creek fire from 2017. Recommend taking Nick Eaton trail in the way up to save the knees on the way down.