This was the best hikes ever. Breathtaking whole way. Trails in good shape, just right elevation. 80 and sunny. Cleetwood 2 miles roundtrip down to the lake, elevation change 700 feet. Did bands at picnic area between 2 hills. Rim trail best to start where we did on the other side of Watchman as that section along road and no views of lake. Rest of the rim hike was awesome views of lake whole time and good of mountains in other other direction.