Large lot, but heard it fills fast weekends. I went Wednesday ~130pm. Lots of spots. Permit only required weekends short time of year. Pretty steady climb up. 2nice viewpoint stops 2nd one is almost nicer than top in my opinion I took the A... trail back down, which was 0.9mi longer but flatter. No flowers on up trail. Quite a few on way down. A... trail had a few rocky segments like small ones but you have to cross a Rick slide in several areas. Watch footing. Was glad to have poles for steepness up and terrain down. Really nice trail. Great views of the Columbia river
